On Wed Feb 20, the Royal College Australian Physcians (RCAP) renewed its strong support for the outdated practice of water fluoridation. They offered no sound science why the modern studies that demonstrate it is neither safe nor effective should be ignored.
Professor Paul Connett, co-author of the book “The Case Against Fluoride” who is currently touring NZ on a trip sponsored by Fluoride Action Network NZ (FANNZ), said “it is no longer acceptable for bodies like RCAP to simply to use their ‘authority’ to promote fluoridation. Sadly too many ‘authorities’ in the past have betrayed the public’s trust on this practice. Our book has shown that the science showing the swallowing fluoride reduces tooth decay is very weak indeed, meanwhile the evidence that fluoride causes harm is growing. What scientific studies can RCAP offer which allows them to ignore the 36 studies that have shown a lowering of IQ at fairly modest levels of fluoride in water?”
FANNZ today calls upon RCAP to take the opportunity of professor Connett’s visit (Feb 18- March 8) and find one medical doctor among their ranks to debate him in public debate. This would give them an excellent opportunity to show where any of the science-based arguments in his book are wrong. If they cannot do so the public should take their pro-fluoridation views with a large piece of salt.
Meanwhile, Professor Connett has been telling audiences in New Zealand that Doctors should be ashamed to support the use of the public water supply to deliver medicine. He says, “Since 1945, when fluoridation began, we haven’t used the public water to deliver any other medicine and for obvious reasons. 1) You can’t control the dose; 2) you can’t control who gets the medicine and 3) it violates the individual’s right to informed consent to medicine. Doctors should know this is lousy medicine and they should not support it.”
FANNZ is calling on people to contact RCAP (Ph: (04) 472 6713 or racp@racp.org.nz) to tell them public relations spin is not going to win the issue; they have to defend their position with solid science in a public forum. Prof Connett is offering them a splendid opportunity to do so. It’s time to put up or shut up.
No safe levels of fluoride IMO. There’s been studies which have said that. Including a Japanese one. Then there’s been some studies was it from Harvard? Finding Fluoride lowers IQ.
Of course the Dental Assoc Idiots. Claim fluoride’s safe and go on about socalled natural fluoride. Well both of them are a poison. Natural Fluoride in water in India is responsible for poisoning and making a number of Indians very sick. While the socalled fluoride used in fluoridated treated water can be a by-product of the Aluminium industry which is even more toxic!
Only 5% of the world uses fluoridation because many large studies show fluoridation is totally ineffective in improving tooth decay and is dangerous to health (See fluoridealert.org). The citizens of the few countries which fluoridate also have the distinction of having the highest rates of arthritis and thyroid disease, both side effects of excessive ingestion of fluoride.
Enlightened countries have rejected forced fluoridation — Belgium, all of the Scandinavian countries, France, Germany, Japan, Switzerland and so forth. Ninety-eight percent of Western Europe has rejected it on principle or for scientific reasons. In 2006, Israel suspended fluoridation based on studies that showed it does more harm than good. Also rejecting it is Japan, China, and India.
The reason most of the world rejects fluoridation is that they have learned it is ineffective for teeth and dangerous to health.
Removing fluoridation from water would be the right thing to do for Waikato councils, or anywhere in NZ.
The defenses of fluoridation by RCAP or NZ’s Felicity Dumble are pretty weak. They seem unable to address any of the science. Why is that? Organizational endorsements like “Organization C said that B said that A said that it is SAFE & EFFECTIVE” are a disgrace.
In the end, as well as a scientific matter it is a freedom issue. Taking any medication should be a matter of free choice, after consultation with a medical advisor you trust. Dumping a medicine for teeth into the water denies this proper freedom.
Fluoride acid is undoubtedly a poisonous substance, depending upon how much you ingest. When it is in the drinking water there is no control over how much you consume.
NZ councils and health authorities should be up-to-date and know that the latest research on fluoride shows a number of serious health risks from the chemical.
“If someone were to tell you that you were being subjected to a known poison, without your consent, that the substance could lead to an increased risk of cancer and osteoporosis, and that it was used as a commercial rat poison, you would probably think they were mad. And if they discovered that this medication was being administered with the full knowledge and cooperation of government and the medical profession, you would be sure they were mad. Yet this is exactly what is happening to well in excess of a million New Zealanders today, for that poison is fluoride!” – adapted from the introduction to the book Fluoride – Drinking Ourselves to Death by Barry Groves.
“Fluoride is more toxic than lead and only marginally less toxic than arsenic” – Clinical Toxicology of Commercial Products, 5th Edition.
“Fluoridation is the greatest case of scientific fraud of this century, if not of all time.” – Dr Robert Carton, formerly US Environmental Protection Agency.
“No laboratory test has ever shown that 1 part per million fluoride in the drinking water reduces tooth decay” – Chief Dental Officer, UK Ministry of Health and Social Security, (11 December 1980.)
“To my horror, they showed that fewer fillings had been required in the unfluoridated part of Auckland than in the fluoridated part” – A quote from the late Dr John Colquhoun who was the chief dental officer of the Department of Health for Auckland and president of the New Zealand Fluoridation Society. When he received the figures and data for his study they came with a warning that they were not to made public. Coloquhoun realized why and I quote, “They showed that in most Health Districts the percentage of children who were free of tooth decay was greater in the unfluoridated parts of the district.” It was a great and courageous step on Dr Coloquhoun’s part when he came out against fluoridation. He was “retired” from his post in 1990.
“Hydrofluorosilicic acid (HFA) is the predominant fluoridation agent used in New Zealand.” –quoting Graeme Colquhoun, Product Manager Water Chemicals, Orica Chemnet, Auckland. (Now please keep that in mind when I read you this next quote.)
“Hydrofluorosilicic acid is derived from toxic gases produced in the manufacture of phosphoric acid and phosphate fertilizers; it contains lead, mercury, arsenic and high concentrations of radionucloides; it is also the chemical agent most used for water fluoridation in the United States” – George Classer
“Fluoride does not need to be swallowed to be effective. It is not an essential nutrient. Nor should it be considered a desirable “supplement” for children living in non-fluoridated areas…..Even if there were a systemic benefit from the ingestion of fluoride, it would be miniscule and clinically irrelevant. The notion that systemic fluorides are needed in non-fluoridated areas is an outdated one that should be abandoned altogether.” – Hardy Limeback, Associate Professor and Head of Preventive Dentistry, University of Toronto.
“After 55 years of artificial water fluoridation it is time for opening the scientific debate on this subject. Dentists’ dogma and their doctrine that water fluoridation is safe and effective public health measure can no longer be defended in science.” – Professor Rudolf Ziegelbecker, 5 August 2000.
“This is against all principles of modern pharmacology… I think those nations that are using it should feel ashamed of themselves. It’s against science.” – Dr. Arvid Carlsson, Swedish neuropharmacologist, 2000 Nobel Laureate for Medicine
“I am appalled at the prospect of using water as a vehicle for drugs. Fluoride is a corrosive poison that will produce serious effects on a long range basis. Any attempt to use water this way is deplorable.” – Dr Charles Gordon Heyd, Past President of the American Medical Association.
“…fluoride damages bone even at levels added to public drinking water” – American Journal of Epidemiology, October 1999.
“Hundreds of millions of dollars may be wasted annually on children’s fluoride treatments by dentists. Typically given once or twice a year at routine checkups, the treatments do nothing to reduce cavities in kids, says a study of insurance records.” Journal of Public Health Dentistry.
And I will leave you with this closing quote from a comment made in 1982 by Professor Albert Schatz, the co-discoverer of streptomycin. He stated:
“Indeed fluoridation is the greatest and potentially the most dangerous medical hoax not only of the present century but of all time. In other words, it is the greatest fraud that has ever been perpetrated and it has been perpetrated on more people than any other fraud has.”
The flouride in our drinking water comes from China, along with the crap food , which is not fit for human consumption, how come China is the worlds biggest importer of food from Australia, it speaks for itself,they dont trust their own food, they eat our good food , we eat their crap food, wake up australia,Sick to death, excuse the pun. eat local, sydney.
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No safe levels of fluoride IMO. There’s been studies which have said that. Including a Japanese one. Then there’s been some studies was it from Harvard? Finding Fluoride lowers IQ.
Of course the Dental Assoc Idiots. Claim fluoride’s safe and go on about socalled natural fluoride. Well both of them are a poison. Natural Fluoride in water in India is responsible for poisoning and making a number of Indians very sick. While the socalled fluoride used in fluoridated treated water can be a by-product of the Aluminium industry which is even more toxic!
Only 5% of the world uses fluoridation because many large studies show fluoridation is totally ineffective in improving tooth decay and is dangerous to health (See fluoridealert.org). The citizens of the few countries which fluoridate also have the distinction of having the highest rates of arthritis and thyroid disease, both side effects of excessive ingestion of fluoride.
Enlightened countries have rejected forced fluoridation — Belgium, all of the Scandinavian countries, France, Germany, Japan, Switzerland and so forth. Ninety-eight percent of Western Europe has rejected it on principle or for scientific reasons. In 2006, Israel suspended fluoridation based on studies that showed it does more harm than good. Also rejecting it is Japan, China, and India.
The reason most of the world rejects fluoridation is that they have learned it is ineffective for teeth and dangerous to health.
Removing fluoridation from water would be the right thing to do for Waikato councils, or anywhere in NZ.
The defenses of fluoridation by RCAP or NZ’s Felicity Dumble are pretty weak. They seem unable to address any of the science. Why is that? Organizational endorsements like “Organization C said that B said that A said that it is SAFE & EFFECTIVE” are a disgrace.
In the end, as well as a scientific matter it is a freedom issue. Taking any medication should be a matter of free choice, after consultation with a medical advisor you trust. Dumping a medicine for teeth into the water denies this proper freedom.
Fluoride acid is undoubtedly a poisonous substance, depending upon how much you ingest. When it is in the drinking water there is no control over how much you consume.
NZ councils and health authorities should be up-to-date and know that the latest research on fluoride shows a number of serious health risks from the chemical.
“If someone were to tell you that you were being subjected to a known poison, without your consent, that the substance could lead to an increased risk of cancer and osteoporosis, and that it was used as a commercial rat poison, you would probably think they were mad. And if they discovered that this medication was being administered with the full knowledge and cooperation of government and the medical profession, you would be sure they were mad. Yet this is exactly what is happening to well in excess of a million New Zealanders today, for that poison is fluoride!” – adapted from the introduction to the book Fluoride – Drinking Ourselves to Death by Barry Groves.
“Fluoride is more toxic than lead and only marginally less toxic than arsenic” – Clinical Toxicology of Commercial Products, 5th Edition.
“Fluoridation is the greatest case of scientific fraud of this century, if not of all time.” – Dr Robert Carton, formerly US Environmental Protection Agency.
“No laboratory test has ever shown that 1 part per million fluoride in the drinking water reduces tooth decay” – Chief Dental Officer, UK Ministry of Health and Social Security, (11 December 1980.)
“To my horror, they showed that fewer fillings had been required in the unfluoridated part of Auckland than in the fluoridated part” – A quote from the late Dr John Colquhoun who was the chief dental officer of the Department of Health for Auckland and president of the New Zealand Fluoridation Society. When he received the figures and data for his study they came with a warning that they were not to made public. Coloquhoun realized why and I quote, “They showed that in most Health Districts the percentage of children who were free of tooth decay was greater in the unfluoridated parts of the district.” It was a great and courageous step on Dr Coloquhoun’s part when he came out against fluoridation. He was “retired” from his post in 1990.
“Hydrofluorosilicic acid (HFA) is the predominant fluoridation agent used in New Zealand.” –quoting Graeme Colquhoun, Product Manager Water Chemicals, Orica Chemnet, Auckland. (Now please keep that in mind when I read you this next quote.)
“Hydrofluorosilicic acid is derived from toxic gases produced in the manufacture of phosphoric acid and phosphate fertilizers; it contains lead, mercury, arsenic and high concentrations of radionucloides; it is also the chemical agent most used for water fluoridation in the United States” – George Classer
“Fluoride does not need to be swallowed to be effective. It is not an essential nutrient. Nor should it be considered a desirable “supplement” for children living in non-fluoridated areas…..Even if there were a systemic benefit from the ingestion of fluoride, it would be miniscule and clinically irrelevant. The notion that systemic fluorides are needed in non-fluoridated areas is an outdated one that should be abandoned altogether.” – Hardy Limeback, Associate Professor and Head of Preventive Dentistry, University of Toronto.
“After 55 years of artificial water fluoridation it is time for opening the scientific debate on this subject. Dentists’ dogma and their doctrine that water fluoridation is safe and effective public health measure can no longer be defended in science.” – Professor Rudolf Ziegelbecker, 5 August 2000.
“This is against all principles of modern pharmacology… I think those nations that are using it should feel ashamed of themselves. It’s against science.” – Dr. Arvid Carlsson, Swedish neuropharmacologist, 2000 Nobel Laureate for Medicine
“I am appalled at the prospect of using water as a vehicle for drugs. Fluoride is a corrosive poison that will produce serious effects on a long range basis. Any attempt to use water this way is deplorable.” – Dr Charles Gordon Heyd, Past President of the American Medical Association.
“…fluoride damages bone even at levels added to public drinking water” – American Journal of Epidemiology, October 1999.
“Hundreds of millions of dollars may be wasted annually on children’s fluoride treatments by dentists. Typically given once or twice a year at routine checkups, the treatments do nothing to reduce cavities in kids, says a study of insurance records.” Journal of Public Health Dentistry.
And I will leave you with this closing quote from a comment made in 1982 by Professor Albert Schatz, the co-discoverer of streptomycin. He stated:
“Indeed fluoridation is the greatest and potentially the most dangerous medical hoax not only of the present century but of all time. In other words, it is the greatest fraud that has ever been perpetrated and it has been perpetrated on more people than any other fraud has.”
The flouride in our drinking water comes from China, along with the crap food , which is not fit for human consumption, how come China is the worlds biggest importer of food from Australia, it speaks for itself,they dont trust their own food, they eat our good food , we eat their crap food, wake up australia,Sick to death, excuse the pun. eat local, sydney.